Talk:Evangelist - Revision history

75.64.110.158 at 15:33, 23 July 2011

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			::: Well, that's strange. -gm

206.248.250.8 at 15:20, 23 July 2011

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2011-07-22T21:31:00Z

very informative

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2011-07-22T21:30:49Z

very informative

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178.95.29.148: /* very informative */ new section

2011-07-21T03:33:53Z

very informative: new section

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	::::::: I misread, sorry, I thought you were saying FS didn't use Charisma at ALL. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 17:51, 5 May 2011 (EDT)		::::::: I misread, sorry, I thought you were saying FS didn't use Charisma at ALL. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 17:51, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
	::::::: It does mean a FS necessarily has to be more specialized, which I also like. One could easily pick the clerical buffs as your spells, dump into strength and con, and be a decent combat healer since DC only matters on spells you use that affect others. -gm		::::::: It does mean a FS necessarily has to be more specialized, which I also like. One could easily pick the clerical buffs as your spells, dump into strength and con, and be a decent combat healer since DC only matters on spells you use that affect others. -gm

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Detarame at 22:41, 5 May 2011

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	:::::: I don't understand your quote/response-- that's what I was saying about Favored Souls. Wis is a relatively important stat for Favored Souls and thus it's not a single-stat class (especially for offensive builds). Further, given how much melee they have to rely on, I think a good Favored Soul class is really hard to balance across all the stats. Somewhat like a Cleric, Paladin, or Ranger... I was expecting at first blush that Evangelist would feel like a Favored Soul, but ignoring Charisma entirely gives them more freedom versus most other divine classes. It's cool and refreshing-- I can't wait to see how Evangelist balances out in our campaign. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::::: I don't understand your quote/response-- that's what I was saying about Favored Souls. Wis is a relatively important stat for Favored Souls and thus it's not a single-stat class (especially for offensive builds). Further, given how much melee they have to rely on, I think a good Favored Soul class is really hard to balance across all the stats. Somewhat like a Cleric, Paladin, or Ranger... I was expecting at first blush that Evangelist would feel like a Favored Soul, but ignoring Charisma entirely gives them more freedom versus most other divine classes. It's cool and refreshing-- I can't wait to see how Evangelist balances out in our campaign. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	::::::: I misread, sorry, I thought you were saying FS didn't use Charisma at ALL. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 17:51, 5 May 2011 (EDT)		::::::: I misread, sorry, I thought you were saying FS didn't use Charisma at ALL. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 17:51, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
			::::::: It does mean a FS necessarily has to be more specialized, which I also like. One could easily pick the clerical buffs as your spells, dump into strength and con, and be a decent combat healer since DC only matters on spells you use that affect others. -gm

Detarame at 21:51, 5 May 2011

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	::::: Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm		::::: Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm
	:::::: I don't understand your quote/response-- that's what I was saying about Favored Souls. Wis is a relatively important stat for Favored Souls and thus it's not a single-stat class (especially for offensive builds). Further, given how much melee they have to rely on, I think a good Favored Soul class is really hard to balance across all the stats. Somewhat like a Cleric, Paladin, or Ranger... I was expecting at first blush that Evangelist would feel like a Favored Soul, but ignoring Charisma entirely gives them more freedom versus most other divine classes. It's cool and refreshing-- I can't wait to see how Evangelist balances out in our campaign. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::::: I don't understand your quote/response-- that's what I was saying about Favored Souls. Wis is a relatively important stat for Favored Souls and thus it's not a single-stat class (especially for offensive builds). Further, given how much melee they have to rely on, I think a good Favored Soul class is really hard to balance across all the stats. Somewhat like a Cleric, Paladin, or Ranger... I was expecting at first blush that Evangelist would feel like a Favored Soul, but ignoring Charisma entirely gives them more freedom versus most other divine classes. It's cool and refreshing-- I can't wait to see how Evangelist balances out in our campaign. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
			::::::: I misread, sorry, I thought you were saying FS didn't use Charisma at ALL. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 17:51, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

Mattie: evangelists seem cool

2011-05-05T21:18:52Z

evangelists seem cool

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	::::: <i>Abilities: Charisma determines how many spells the favored soul can cast per day. Wisdom determines how hard the favored soul's spells are to resist (see Spells, below). </i>		::::: <i>Abilities: Charisma determines how many spells the favored soul can cast per day. Wisdom determines how hard the favored soul's spells are to resist (see Spells, below). </i>
	::::: Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm		::::: Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm
			:::::: I don't understand your quote/response-- that's what I was saying about Favored Souls. Wis is a relatively important stat for Favored Souls and thus it's not a single-stat class (especially for offensive builds). Further, given how much melee they have to rely on, I think a good Favored Soul class is really hard to balance across all the stats. Somewhat like a Cleric, Paladin, or Ranger... I was expecting at first blush that Evangelist would feel like a Favored Soul, but ignoring Charisma entirely gives them more freedom versus most other divine classes. It's cool and refreshing-- I can't wait to see how Evangelist balances out in our campaign. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]

Detarame at 20:57, 5 May 2011

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	::: Yeah. Actually, Favored Soul actually can drop Wisdom all they want. Like sorcs, they're a Single Stat Class. I don't think that turn is USELESS, I just think it's, like, a tier III ability so don't invest much towards its use. If I was a paladin, though, Charisma is where it's at! [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 15:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)		::: Yeah. Actually, Favored Soul actually can drop Wisdom all they want. Like sorcs, they're a Single Stat Class. I don't think that turn is USELESS, I just think it's, like, a tier III ability so don't invest much towards its use. If I was a paladin, though, Charisma is where it's at! [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 15:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
	:::: Unless you tweaked them for your world, Wis controls all the Favored Soul spell DCs, so it's not a dump stat IMHO. It's part of some odd divine conflict that makes it hard not to spread points around. Also, Paladins with low Wisdom can't cast spells, so I hate that pain right now. :) -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Unless you tweaked them for your world, Wis controls all the Favored Soul spell DCs, so it's not a dump stat IMHO. It's part of some odd divine conflict that makes it hard not to spread points around. Also, Paladins with low Wisdom can't cast spells, so I hate that pain right now. :) -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	::::: Oh, ~~cute! I like that~~, ~~actually~~. Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm		::::: Uh, actually, Favored Souls DO use CHR to determine spells per day and bonus spells, while using WISDOM to determine spell DCs.
			::::: <i>Abilities: Charisma determines how many spells the favored soul can cast per day. Wisdom determines how hard the favored soul's spells are to resist (see Spells, below). </i>
			::::: Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm

Detarame at 20:55, 5 May 2011

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	::: Yeah. Actually, Favored Soul actually can drop Wisdom all they want. Like sorcs, they're a Single Stat Class. I don't think that turn is USELESS, I just think it's, like, a tier III ability so don't invest much towards its use. If I was a paladin, though, Charisma is where it's at! [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 15:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)		::: Yeah. Actually, Favored Soul actually can drop Wisdom all they want. Like sorcs, they're a Single Stat Class. I don't think that turn is USELESS, I just think it's, like, a tier III ability so don't invest much towards its use. If I was a paladin, though, Charisma is where it's at! [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 15:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
	:::: Unless you tweaked them for your world, Wis controls all the Favored Soul spell DCs, so it's not a dump stat IMHO. It's part of some odd divine conflict that makes it hard not to spread points around. Also, Paladins with low Wisdom can't cast spells, so I hate that pain right now. :) -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Unless you tweaked them for your world, Wis controls all the Favored Soul spell DCs, so it's not a dump stat IMHO. It's part of some odd divine conflict that makes it hard not to spread points around. Also, Paladins with low Wisdom can't cast spells, so I hate that pain right now. :) -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
			::::: Oh, cute! I like that, actually. Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Rogues and Rangers don't get the option to stat dump, but that is paid back in other ways. Getting several stats up to 14 is pretty easy and cheap to do, even with a 28 point build. -gm