Talk:Feat: Hindering Opportunist - Revision history

Mattie: phb2 ref

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	{{talk\|indent=2\|I just want to say that I put "aid another" into a google search, and the d20 skill use page actually was listed first... Above www.aidanother.com. Holy shit. Anyway, this is from the Aid Another special attack text:		{{talk\|indent=2\|I just want to say that I put "aid another" into a google search, and the d20 skill use page actually was listed first... Above www.aidanother.com. Holy shit. Anyway, this is from the Aid Another special attack text:
	"If you succeed, your friend gains either a +2 bonus on his next attack roll against that opponent or a +2 bonus to AC against that opponent’s next attack (your choice), as long as that attack comes before the beginning of your next turn"\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}		"If you succeed, your friend gains either a +2 bonus on his next attack roll against that opponent or a +2 bonus to AC against that opponent’s next attack (your choice), as long as that attack comes before the beginning of your next turn"\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}

			== For comparison ==

			The version in PHB2 is here [http://dnd.savannahsoft.eu/feat-1393-hindering-opportunist.html] with different prereqs. Note that the progression leads to this other feat which would be interesting with Combat Reflexes: [http://dnd.savannahsoft.eu/feat-2755-stalwart-defense.html Stalwart Defense] -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]] 22:53, 20 March 2011 (EDT)

Slitherrr at 23:51, 16 May 2010

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	{{talk\|Would the aid another roll last until the ally's next action or is it only useful for subsequent AoO rolls? I assume it is added to the next thing they do.\|[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]] 16:03, 16 May 2010 (EDT)}}		{{talk\|Would the aid another roll last until the ally's next action or is it only useful for subsequent AoO rolls? I assume it is added to the next thing they do.\|[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]] 16:03, 16 May 2010 (EDT)}}
			{{talk\|indent=2\|I just want to say that I put "aid another" into a google search, and the d20 skill use page actually was listed first... Above www.aidanother.com. Holy shit. Anyway, this is from the Aid Another special attack text:
			"If you succeed, your friend gains either a +2 bonus on his next attack roll against that opponent or a +2 bonus to AC against that opponent’s next attack (your choice), as long as that attack comes before the beginning of your next turn"\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}

Mattie at 20:03, 16 May 2010

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	: I'd say it's still usually clear if someone else is going to pull of an AoO after you. A bit less useful, perhaps, but as long as the standard threat range is a 5' bubble, it ought to be ok. I'd assume if you did an aid another, then whatever the next AoO would be would get the bonus. Like maybe tripping someone up as they pass? -gm		: I'd say it's still usually clear if someone else is going to pull of an AoO after you. A bit less useful, perhaps, but as long as the standard threat range is a 5' bubble, it ought to be ok. I'd assume if you did an aid another, then whatever the next AoO would be would get the bonus. Like maybe tripping someone up as they pass? -gm
	:: Well, I'm not sure we're on the same page, here, but you do bring up a good point in referencing 5', because it reminds me that "aid another" can actually be said to be targeting the ''enemy'', rather than the friendly who that enemy engages. Since it's generally only done during the action, rather than as an interrupt, the distinction usually isn't meaningful, but here it matters. With this interpretation, we can rule the Aid Another as taking effect on the next non-self friendly the hindered combatant engages. This, notably, will NOT affect the next friendly AoO on the hindered guy--the enemy doesn't necessarily engage people he provokes AoO's from. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:: Well, I'm not sure we're on the same page, here, but you do bring up a good point in referencing 5', because it reminds me that "aid another" can actually be said to be targeting the ''enemy'', rather than the friendly who that enemy engages. Since it's generally only done during the action, rather than as an interrupt, the distinction usually isn't meaningful, but here it matters. With this interpretation, we can rule the Aid Another as taking effect on the next non-self friendly the hindered combatant engages. This, notably, will NOT affect the next friendly AoO on the hindered guy--the enemy doesn't necessarily engage people he provokes AoO's from. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

			{{talk\|Would the aid another roll last until the ally's next action or is it only useful for subsequent AoO rolls? I assume it is added to the next thing they do.\|[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]] 16:03, 16 May 2010 (EDT)}}

Slitherrr at 23:18, 15 February 2010

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	A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	: I'd say it's still usually clear if someone else is going to pull of an AoO after you. A bit less useful, perhaps, but as long as the standard threat range is a 5' bubble, it ought to be ok. I'd assume if you did an aid another, then whatever the next AoO would be would get the bonus. Like maybe tripping someone up as they pass? -gm		: I'd say it's still usually clear if someone else is going to pull of an AoO after you. A bit less useful, perhaps, but as long as the standard threat range is a 5' bubble, it ought to be ok. I'd assume if you did an aid another, then whatever the next AoO would be would get the bonus. Like maybe tripping someone up as they pass? -gm
			:: Well, I'm not sure we're on the same page, here, but you do bring up a good point in referencing 5', because it reminds me that "aid another" can actually be said to be targeting the ''enemy'', rather than the friendly who that enemy engages. Since it's generally only done during the action, rather than as an interrupt, the distinction usually isn't meaningful, but here it matters. With this interpretation, we can rule the Aid Another as taking effect on the next non-self friendly the hindered combatant engages. This, notably, will NOT affect the next friendly AoO on the hindered guy--the enemy doesn't necessarily engage people he provokes AoO's from. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

75.64.111.120 at 22:40, 15 February 2010

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	A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
			: I'd say it's still usually clear if someone else is going to pull of an AoO after you. A bit less useful, perhaps, but as long as the standard threat range is a 5' bubble, it ought to be ok. I'd assume if you did an aid another, then whatever the next AoO would be would get the bonus. Like maybe tripping someone up as they pass? -gm

Slitherrr at 15:25, 15 February 2010

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	:Haha. Nice feat. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:Haha. Nice feat. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

	A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:~~66.207.92.41~~\|~~66.207.92.41~~]]		A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

66.207.92.41 at 15:24, 15 February 2010

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	:Haha. Nice feat. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:Haha. Nice feat. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

			A note/clarification with this: Is the full path of a move declared before AoOs are resolved, or only the path up to the AoO? This feat becomes a bit less useful if the possessor doesn't have some surety as to the destination of the person generating the AoO. -[[User:66.207.92.41\|66.207.92.41]]

Slitherrr at 03:25, 25 January 2010

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			:Haha. Nice feat. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

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