https://wiki.memphisgamers.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ALanguageTalk:Language - Revision history2026-05-07T19:20:17ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.2https://wiki.memphisgamers.com/index.php?title=Talk:Language&diff=4166&oldid=prev75.64.111.120 at 18:07, 18 February 20102010-02-18T18:07:13Z<p></p>
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</table>Slitherrrhttps://wiki.memphisgamers.com/index.php?title=Talk:Language&diff=4161&oldid=prevSlitherrr at 18:03, 18 February 20102010-02-18T18:03:06Z<p></p>
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</table>Slitherrrhttps://wiki.memphisgamers.com/index.php?title=Talk:Language&diff=4110&oldid=prevFeantari at 20:13, 17 February 20102010-02-17T20:13:37Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: True. My main beef with Comprehend Languages is on the written end, really--researching ancient texts isn't nearly as fun when you can just pop a 1st-level spell and understand everything within (save magically protected scripts, but honestly, is every single interesting bit of historical information going to be hidden behind a Secret Page spell?). If it's spoken, you at least have to have some foreknowledge to prepare. -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: True. My main beef with Comprehend Languages is on the written end, really--researching ancient texts isn't nearly as fun when you can just pop a 1st-level spell and understand everything within (save magically protected scripts, but honestly, is every single interesting bit of historical information going to be hidden behind a Secret Page spell?). If it's spoken, you at least have to have some foreknowledge to prepare. -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: True. My main beef with Comprehend Languages is on the written end, really--researching ancient texts isn't nearly as fun when you can just pop a 1st-level spell and understand everything within (save magically protected scripts, but honestly, is every single interesting bit of historical information going to be hidden behind a Secret Page spell?). If it's spoken, you at least have to have some foreknowledge to prepare. -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: True. My main beef with Comprehend Languages is on the written end, really--researching ancient texts isn't nearly as fun when you can just pop a 1st-level spell and understand everything within (save magically protected scripts, but honestly, is every single interesting bit of historical information going to be hidden behind a Secret Page spell?). If it's spoken, you at least have to have some foreknowledge to prepare. -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Sounds like editing the spell to work as something like a minor mind read sort of ability might work. You can understand what a person is telling you, but that piece of paper has nothing for you to get at. I'd have to go back through the magic stuff to nail it down to the proper school and all, but changing the approach to how the spell is able to function seems most like what you guys are getting at. -[[User:Feantari|Feantari]]</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Also true, but comprehend, and I think even tongues, is only for spoken languages. Decipher Script is also good for ciphers, like mr black leather gnome. -gm</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Also true, but comprehend, and I think even tongues, is only for spoken languages. Decipher Script is also good for ciphers, like mr black leather gnome. -gm</div></td></tr>
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