Talk:List of Languages - Revision history

Detarame at 19:33, 29 December 2015

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	: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm		: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. The written language of the outlands, however, is almost certainly influenced by the catperson language. The catpeople wrote by using their claws to make stroke-marks in clay. The language, of course, was iconic and not phonetic, so shoving cat-person script on regional languages was the most common solution when the humans and others needed to learn to write on the fly.-gm

Detarame at 19:29, 29 December 2015

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	: We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Frankly, any history from Catpeople times or before is totally unreliable, anyway. The Catpeople, much like classical Confucian historians, record with their biases on their sleeves. The down-caste races don't have much of a historical record until the Second Dynasty. The Catpeople time ended with Alexandria, more or less. So while the Mainland has anywhere from good to fragmentary records of the Age of Demigods, the outlands only have the histories written by catpeople about catpeople. -gm		: We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Frankly, any history from Catpeople times or before is totally unreliable, anyway. The Catpeople, much like classical Confucian historians, record with their biases on their sleeves. The down-caste races don't have much of a historical record until the Second Dynasty. The Catpeople time ended with Alexandria, more or less. So while the Mainland has anywhere from good to fragmentary records of the Age of Demigods, the outlands only have the histories written by catpeople about catpeople. Oral myths written down in the Second Dynasty would be the only window into that time period. The First War period occupies a similar position in the Alexandrian histories, but is not mentioned at all in catperson lore. -gm


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	: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm		: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm

Detarame at 19:27, 29 December 2015

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	: We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Frankly, any history from Catpeople times or before is totally unreliable. The Catpeople, much like classical Confucian historians, record with their biases on their sleeves. The down-caste races don't have much of a historical record until the Second Dynasty. -gm		: We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Frankly, any history from Catpeople times or before is totally unreliable, anyway. The Catpeople, much like classical Confucian historians, record with their biases on their sleeves. The down-caste races don't have much of a historical record until the Second Dynasty. The Catpeople time ended with Alexandria, more or less. So while the Mainland has anywhere from good to fragmentary records of the Age of Demigods, the outlands only have the histories written by catpeople about catpeople. -gm

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	: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm		: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm

Detarame at 19:24, 29 December 2015

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	We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm		: We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Frankly, any history from Catpeople times or before is totally unreliable. The Catpeople, much like classical Confucian historians, record with their biases on their sleeves. The down-caste races don't have much of a historical record until the Second Dynasty. -gm
			: Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm

Detarame at 19:22, 29 December 2015

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	We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something.		We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something. -gm


	It doesn't really matter, but apparently the real pastiche breakdown:		It doesn't really matter, but apparently the real pastiche breakdown: -gm
	*Wa, a cold and mountainous kingdom in the south. (Fake Japan)		*Wa, a cold and mountainous kingdom in the south. (Fake Japan)
	*Po, a small but wealthy kingdom situated along the eastern central coast, where two great rivers outlet into the sea and are connected by a great canal. (Fake Coastal/Southern China)		*Po, a small but wealthy kingdom situated along the eastern central coast, where two great rivers outlet into the sea and are connected by a great canal. (Fake Coastal/Southern China)

Detarame at 19:21, 29 December 2015

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	We didn't have any trouble with Ssel'it when Jones was speaking it before, so I put the apostrophe back in. It sounds like a pretty good way to handle the variants, so I'm pro-that table.-[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		We didn't have any trouble with Ssel'it when Jones was speaking it before, so I put the apostrophe back in. It sounds like a pretty good way to handle the variants, so I'm pro-that table.-[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])


			We must resist the urge to define and chart everything. Ambiguity is okay, especially in places meant to be ambiguous. In any event, the people of the outlands have been there since basically forever, they didn't migrate from or through the Underdark. If anything, the most of the Underdark races that are not Eldrich Horrors and the sort are the descendants of banished outlanders. If anything, Undercommon is influenced by outlander languages. But, probably not. Really, I think it's just a trade pidgin of like drow and underdwarf and i dunno probably abeolth or something.


			It doesn't really matter, but apparently the real pastiche breakdown:
			*Wa, a cold and mountainous kingdom in the south. (Fake Japan)
			*Po, a small but wealthy kingdom situated along the eastern central coast, where two great rivers outlet into the sea and are connected by a great canal. (Fake Coastal/Southern China)
			*Zha, a small and remote kingdom commanding the central highland plateau. Once a land of pleasant mountain valleys, since the Raising of the Range it is rugged and difficult country. (Fake Tibet)
			*Lang, a tropical kingdom in the far north, dominated by jungles, with a long coastal lowland and a steamy mountainous interior. (Fake Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam)
			*San, the youngest kingdom, a breakaway of Po. Although larger than Po, it is landlocked and more mountainous so far less wealthy and populated than Po. (Fake Inland/North China)

Slitherrr at 03:58, 29 December 2015

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	~~Fleshing more out~~, ~~since Linguistics being an actual skill means we need more languages to learn!~~		We didn't have any trouble with Ssel'it when Jones was speaking it before, so I put the apostrophe back in. It sounds like a pretty good way to handle the variants, so I'm pro-that table.-[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])

	~~What's~~ the ~~general knowledge on planar languages? Has Thoven been steadily learning Infernal~~ in ~~his quest~~ to ~~become part~~-~~demon?~~ -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

Slitherrr at 00:47, 15 February 2013

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	~~Starting fresh! So~~, if we want to be pretty explicit about the regionalism of the language mechanic, Dwarven and Gnomish should probably get their own names (Gilden springs to mind for Dwarven, but I don't know enough about the Gnomes for a good name for them). Likewise for Servitors, although it might actually make more ~~canonical sense~~ to refer to them as Race Name (regional qualifier), since it's pretty unlikely that any Goodly race that would be contributing to the knowledge on this wiki would care too much about Servitor lexical history (even most Servitors aren't in much position to give a rat's ass, honestly, since they hardly live an existence of leisure). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		Fleshing more out, since Linguistics being an actual skill means we need more languages to learn!

			What's the general knowledge on planar languages? Has Thoven been steadily learning Infernal in his quest to become part-demon? -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	-~~---~~
	~~Old stuff killed. History for details.~~ -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]] ~~11:56, 30 November 2010 (EST)~~

Slitherrr at 16:56, 30 November 2010

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-What about Servitor languages? We know that Goblins (at least near Gildenhome) speak their own language, and Kobolds (again, near Gildenhome) have their bastard tongue. -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]
+Starting fresh! So, if we want to be pretty explicit about the regionalism of the language mechanic, Dwarven and Gnomish should probably get their own names (Gilden springs to mind for Dwarven, but I don't know enough about the Gnomes for a good name for them). Likewise for Servitors, although it might actually make more canonical sense to refer to them as Race Name (regional qualifier), since it's pretty unlikely that any Goodly race that would be contributing to the knowledge on this wiki would care too much about Servitor lexical history (even most Servitors aren't in much position to give a rat's ass, honestly, since they hardly live an existence of leisure). -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]
-Fun fact: The Russian language's grammatical structure has barely changed in the last two thousand years. I'm picturing Odessan as being something like that, with the Ubrekti branch coming off (as you've mentioned) as more like the Latinate languages. The Ulan is probably exceedingly interesting; since it's still a largely isolated and wild area, there might even be languages that nobody in the Northern world has even heard.-[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]]
+----
-: Wow, that's crazy. That sounds about right. Sad fact is, for people like the Celstians, Odessans, and Fresians, no one knows much about their origins thanks to the ruthlessness of the Ubrekti Empire's war and cultural obliteration. -gm
+Old stuff killed. History for details. -[[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]] 11:56, 30 November 2010 (EST)

Slitherrr at 00:58, 25 April 2010

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	I never gave the revamed language page the props it deserves. This was a huge improvement on the original. -gm		I never gave the revamed language page the props it deserves. This was a huge improvement on the original. -gm
			:Langwiges r awsum. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]