Talk:Noble Scion - Revision history

Detarame at 00:12, 8 March 2013

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	::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm		::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm
	:::: Aight. My weekend is wide open--Ali canceled all our plans because she's sick. You around? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:::: Aight. My weekend is wide open--Ali canceled all our plans because she's sick. You around? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			::::: Yeah, I want to do some of the dreaded Solo RP. I'm afraid you can bullet point your way out of the sack of shit the Silverwalkers have dealt you. I honestly think Wydmoor is about to get conquered, so a lot of this stuff may be moot unless you've got a little Hannibal in your pocket. They did give you some goodies, though! -gm
	:::: Also, you have a weird definition of "spanked!" Didn't I get double your score that game? ;) --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:::: Also, you have a weird definition of "spanked!" Didn't I get double your score that game? ;) --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			::::: Yeah, what the fuck. I'm pretty sure I was slightly ahead in that game until you had 40 points on your last turn or something. Watching that last turn was like falling off a god damn building: starts out bad, and doesn't ever get any better. -gm
	: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm		: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm
	:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

Msallen at 15:53, 7 March 2013

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	::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm		::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm
	:::: Aight. My weekend is wide open--Ali canceled all our plans because she's sick. You around? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:::: Aight. My weekend is wide open--Ali canceled all our plans because she's sick. You around? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			:::: Also, you have a weird definition of "spanked!" Didn't I get double your score that game? ;) --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm		: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm
	:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

Msallen at 15:52, 7 March 2013

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	: I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm		: I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm
	:: Dude, email me at work or answer my phone calls (or turn on your phone even). I have all kinds of ideas! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: Dude, email me at work or answer my phone calls (or turn on your phone even). I have all kinds of ideas! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm		::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm
			:::: Aight. My weekend is wide open--Ali canceled all our plans because she's sick. You around? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm		: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm
	:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

Detarame at 20:27, 6 March 2013

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	: I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm		: I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm
	:: Dude, email me at work or answer my phone calls (or turn on your phone even). I have all kinds of ideas! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: Dude, email me at work or answer my phone calls (or turn on your phone even). I have all kinds of ideas! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			::: Heh, it might have to wait till next week - things are nuts at work today and tomorrow, but next week is spring break. -gm
	: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm		: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm
	:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

Msallen at 17:03, 6 March 2013

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	* The fact that it is available starting at level 6 means a lot of the unique skills come online at times that are compareable to professional/dragoman.		* The fact that it is available starting at level 6 means a lot of the unique skills come online at times that are compareable to professional/dragoman.
	What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	** I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm		: I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm
			:: Dude, email me at work or answer my phone calls (or turn on your phone even). I have all kinds of ideas! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	**I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers.		: I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers. -gm
			:: You saw there was also a similar Scion ability called Prestigious Influence? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

Detarame: wait... what?

2013-03-05T23:22:59Z

wait... what?

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	**I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers.		**I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers.

	** Needless to say, my take is that the special ability reduces the level restriction on your one follower, not that it grants additional, better followers. I agree both readings are plausible, but I prefer this for game balance, and I think if the intent was multiple followers, the new followers would be WORSE - not BETTER - than the one you start with. Isn't that how the comparable Animal Companion prestiges work? -gm

Detarame at 23:11, 5 March 2013

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	**I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers.		**I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers.

			** Needless to say, my take is that the special ability reduces the level restriction on your one follower, not that it grants additional, better followers. I agree both readings are plausible, but I prefer this for game balance, and I think if the intent was multiple followers, the new followers would be WORSE - not BETTER - than the one you start with. Isn't that how the comparable Animal Companion prestiges work? -gm

Detarame at 23:08, 5 March 2013

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	What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	** I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm		** I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm

			**I'm thinking about leaving affluent there, and stipulating it may only be spent on rents, services, or mundane gear for followers.

Detarame at 22:35, 5 March 2013

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	* The fact that it is available starting at level 6 means a lot of the unique skills come online at times that are compareable to professional/dragoman.		* The fact that it is available starting at level 6 means a lot of the unique skills come online at times that are compareable to professional/dragoman.
	What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			** I don't hate that idea. Though, I'd already had some plot avenue ideas as well.... If you'd respond to my emails and interact with me in some way that isn't getting spanked in Ascension, we could sort out some prereqs. Germain has work to do, and you have that fancy office now. No excuses! -gm

Msallen: Created page with "The more I look at this class, the more I think that the PF skill changes + this class covers everything that I think Professional/Dragoman were supposed to address about 3.5. I'..."

2013-03-04T19:08:51Z

Created page with "The more I look at this class, the more I think that the PF skill changes + this class covers everything that I think Professional/Dragoman were supposed to address about 3.5. I'..."

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The more I look at this class, the more I think that the PF skill changes + this class covers everything that I think Professional/Dragoman were supposed to address about 3.5. I'm increasingly in agreement with GM that we can get rid of those other classes and rely on what is already in place:
* Skill point and class skill changes (+ more in-class feats/traits) makes it much easier to pick up a secondary profession/skill focus without needing to splash Prof. In short, we don't need professional as a splash class.
* Increase to rogue versatility (talents, more defensive buffs, higher HP, more skills) means that Prof is no longer fills a unique role as the "more defensive, less fragile rogue".
* Noble Scion has...
** Unique and powerful social and knowledge skill buffs like the dragoman, and a focus on local knowledge (Prestigious Influence, Peerless patrician).
** Broad knowledge and language skills like both dragoman and professional.
** Leadership buffs like a professional (Greater leadership, Servitor).
** Bonus skills feats like a professional (Regional expertise).
** Multiclass support abilities (Dilettante studies).
* The fact that it is available starting at level 6 means a lot of the unique skills come online at times that are compareable to professional/dragoman.
What does everyone think? Is it worth reskinning this class slightly to make it less noble focused and more professionally focuses? Ie. replace the knowledge (nobility) requirement with knowledge (local) and profession, and do something else with the special requirement? --[[User:Msallen|Msallen]]