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Bartley: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-18T04:44:55Z

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	::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/ http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/ http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
			::::::::: Yeah, I've had similar thoughts. That's part of why I like the variant racial traits so much.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 00:44, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

Slitherrr: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-17T19:25:43Z

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	:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/ http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

Slitherrr: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-17T19:25:25Z

Approved playable races?

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	:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
			:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

Slitherrr at 19:23, 17 March 2016

2016-03-17T19:23:27Z

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	::::: Agh! Paizo! I can't even imagine what the next elf-plus weapon is going to look like. -gm		::::: Agh! Paizo! I can't even imagine what the next elf-plus weapon is going to look like. -gm
	:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
			::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

Slitherrr at 17:54, 17 March 2016

2016-03-17T17:54:33Z

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	:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: Agh! Paizo! I can't even imagine what the next elf-plus weapon is going to look like. -gm		::::: Agh! Paizo! I can't even imagine what the next elf-plus weapon is going to look like. -gm
			:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

Detarame: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-17T02:16:12Z

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	::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm		::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm
	:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
			::::: Agh! Paizo! I can't even imagine what the next elf-plus weapon is going to look like. -gm
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
			::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM
	::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])		::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])

Bartley: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-16T18:30:26Z

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	::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm		::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm
	:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
			:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])		::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])

Bartley: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-16T17:37:58Z

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	::: If we were going to go high fantasy, I'd just run Dark Sun. Which, frankly, I would love: I genuinely believe Dark Sun is the most interesting thing to happen to the fantasy genre since the advent of Tolkien and I absolutely love it. People seem to enjoy the Mainland metaplot, though, and setting up a game in Athas wouldn't move the plot ball any further or faster, and so, as long as we're in the Alexandrian realm, high-humanism is just going to be the template we operate under. -gm		::: If we were going to go high fantasy, I'd just run Dark Sun. Which, frankly, I would love: I genuinely believe Dark Sun is the most interesting thing to happen to the fantasy genre since the advent of Tolkien and I absolutely love it. People seem to enjoy the Mainland metaplot, though, and setting up a game in Athas wouldn't move the plot ball any further or faster, and so, as long as we're in the Alexandrian realm, high-humanism is just going to be the template we operate under. -gm
	::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm		::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm
			:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])		::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])
			:::: It's great for casters, ranged, and even ok for non-MAD melee classes, but for the builds I'm considering not so much.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)

	== 3.5 Weapons Allowable?==		== 3.5 Weapons Allowable?==
	*[http://www.realmshelps.net/stores/weapons/Shotput3_orc Orc Shotput] - Exotic Ranged Bludgeoning Weapon, orc; Cost:10 gp; Dmg(S)1d8; Dmg(M)2d6; Crit:19-20/x3; Range: 10 ft.; Weight: 15 lb; Description: Special training turns a grapefruit-sized sphere of crude iron into a deadly missile. Even with the Exotic Weapon feat, a wielder must be Medium-size or larger to use the weapon effectively (or suffer an additional -3 penalty to attack rolls in addition to the standard non-proficiency penalty).--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:31, 15 March 2016 (EDT)		*[http://www.realmshelps.net/stores/weapons/Shotput3_orc Orc Shotput] - Exotic Ranged Bludgeoning Weapon, orc; Cost:10 gp; Dmg(S)1d8; Dmg(M)2d6; Crit:19-20/x3; Range: 10 ft.; Weight: 15 lb; Description: Special training turns a grapefruit-sized sphere of crude iron into a deadly missile. Even with the Exotic Weapon feat, a wielder must be Medium-size or larger to use the weapon effectively (or suffer an additional -3 penalty to attack rolls in addition to the standard non-proficiency penalty).--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:31, 15 March 2016 (EDT)
	**Gokar could cause some crazy ranged damage with one of these with strength bonus added. If he had the money to get it enchanted with returning, tailwind, flame burst, sundering, etc he'd basically be a 1 man cannon.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:49, 15 March 2016 (EDT)		**Gokar could cause some crazy ranged damage with one of these with strength bonus added. If he had the money to get it enchanted with returning, tailwind, flame burst, sundering, etc he'd basically be a 1 man cannon.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:49, 15 March 2016 (EDT)

Msallen at 15:57, 16 March 2016

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	::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm		::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm
	::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
			::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])

	== 3.5 Weapons Allowable?==		== 3.5 Weapons Allowable?==
	*[http://www.realmshelps.net/stores/weapons/Shotput3_orc Orc Shotput] - Exotic Ranged Bludgeoning Weapon, orc; Cost:10 gp; Dmg(S)1d8; Dmg(M)2d6; Crit:19-20/x3; Range: 10 ft.; Weight: 15 lb; Description: Special training turns a grapefruit-sized sphere of crude iron into a deadly missile. Even with the Exotic Weapon feat, a wielder must be Medium-size or larger to use the weapon effectively (or suffer an additional -3 penalty to attack rolls in addition to the standard non-proficiency penalty).--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:31, 15 March 2016 (EDT)		*[http://www.realmshelps.net/stores/weapons/Shotput3_orc Orc Shotput] - Exotic Ranged Bludgeoning Weapon, orc; Cost:10 gp; Dmg(S)1d8; Dmg(M)2d6; Crit:19-20/x3; Range: 10 ft.; Weight: 15 lb; Description: Special training turns a grapefruit-sized sphere of crude iron into a deadly missile. Even with the Exotic Weapon feat, a wielder must be Medium-size or larger to use the weapon effectively (or suffer an additional -3 penalty to attack rolls in addition to the standard non-proficiency penalty).--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:31, 15 March 2016 (EDT)
	**Gokar could cause some crazy ranged damage with one of these with strength bonus added. If he had the money to get it enchanted with returning, tailwind, flame burst, sundering, etc he'd basically be a 1 man cannon.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:49, 15 March 2016 (EDT)		**Gokar could cause some crazy ranged damage with one of these with strength bonus added. If he had the money to get it enchanted with returning, tailwind, flame burst, sundering, etc he'd basically be a 1 man cannon.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 17:49, 15 March 2016 (EDT)

Detarame: /* Approved playable races? */

2016-03-16T13:29:14Z

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	::: Hakani Gnomes are the best race! +Int & +Chr! UMD bump and always a class skill! Easy availability of psionics! -gm		::: Hakani Gnomes are the best race! +Int & +Chr! UMD bump and always a class skill! Easy availability of psionics! -gm
	::: Your motivation is really understandable, frankly, though the lack of crazy-fantasy races is an intentional design decision and a core part my vision of the world. Lowish-Magic, Lowish-Fantasy is the guiding vision for this setting, even though I have to acknowledge that's a direction that runs contra to the rest of the trends in fantasy gaming (dragonborn and sliths and tieflings, oh my!). Even Slitherr's lizardfolk was an edge case I wasn't thrilled with until a lot of work went into it, and that's a race that demonstrably exists all over the place. Gub's Hobgoblin was also an edge case, but one that very much fit in with that party and that setting and hobgoblins, at least, are also demonstrably all over the place and canonically have been seen working with good-guy races, at least distantly. -gm		::: Your motivation is really understandable, frankly, though the lack of crazy-fantasy races is an intentional design decision and a core part my vision of the world. Lowish-Magic, Lowish-Fantasy is the guiding vision for this setting, even though I have to acknowledge that's a direction that runs contra to the rest of the trends in fantasy gaming (dragonborn and sliths and tieflings, oh my!). Even Slitherr's lizardfolk was an edge case I wasn't thrilled with until a lot of work went into it, and that's a race that demonstrably exists all over the place. Gub's Hobgoblin was also an edge case, but one that very much fit in with that party and that setting and hobgoblins, at least, are also demonstrably all over the place and canonically have been seen working with good-guy races, at least distantly. -gm
	::: If we were going to go high fantasy, I'd just run Dark Sun. Which, frankly, I would love: I genuinely believe Dark Sun is the most interesting thing to happen to the fantasy genre since the advent of Tolkien and I absolutely love it. ~~But~~, as long as we're in the Alexandrian realm, high-humanism is just going to be the template we operate under. -gm		::: If we were going to go high fantasy, I'd just run Dark Sun. Which, frankly, I would love: I genuinely believe Dark Sun is the most interesting thing to happen to the fantasy genre since the advent of Tolkien and I absolutely love it. People seem to enjoy the Mainland metaplot, though, and setting up a game in Athas wouldn't move the plot ball any further or faster, and so, as long as we're in the Alexandrian realm, high-humanism is just going to be the template we operate under. -gm
	::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm		::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm
	::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)

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	::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/ http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/ http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
			::::::::: Yeah, I've had similar thoughts. That's part of why I like the variant racial traits so much.--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 00:44, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

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	:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/ http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

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	:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		:::::: Yet another example of the pro-elf bias among the nerds who make these things. Seriously, how many fucking elf weapons are there? And, if we're already assuming racist tropes for weapon proficiencies, why don't Orcs have like twice as many interesting ways to kill people? -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])		::::::: (to be fair to Paizo, it's only partially their fault for introducing the aspect of racial demonyms, they only introduced the curve blade in their official material AFAIK.) -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
			:::::::: Also, relevant: [http://theangrygm.com/why-race-isnt-broken/]. Not saying they're rules we should adapt, but I'm glad I'm not the only person bothered by what the post talks about. -[[User:Slitherrr\|slitherrr]] ([[User talk:Slitherrr\|talk]])
	:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM		::::: There is no part of this world that has Thri-kreen. You can set your watch by that. -GM

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	::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm		::: Anyway, only half-elves are verboten. The other groups are frankly lousy with elves, and canonically the rate of emigration/exile from Sidhe-Praxen is relatively high in the modern era. Pick up that feat that lets you use Dex instead of Str for damage, grab power attack, focus on Elven Curved Blade and you got a stew goin'. -gm
	:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		:::: Cool, Elf it is then. That actually will work really well the slayer/investigator build I was considering, especially since elves have a racial investigator class bonus option. I may skip the curved blade for now in favor of the [http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Elven%20branched%20spear Elven branched spear]--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 13:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
			:::: Or maybe a Thri‐kreen dual falchion Barbarian/Wizard/Dragon Disciple build?--[[User:Bartley\|Bartley]] ([[User talk:Bartley\|talk]]) 14:30, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)		::: I don't believe for a second you're not also a champion grade min-maxer. You contain multitudes. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] ([[User talk:Detarame\|talk]]) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
	::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])		::: What's the matter with being SMALL!?! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]] ([[User talk:Msallen\|talk]])