Talk:The Mefight Bag of Holding - Revision history

Slitherrr at 19:03, 2 April 2011

2011-04-02T19:03:52Z

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	:::: Rapier, then, since everyone but Thoven can use it. I'll make the marks. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:::: Rapier, then, since everyone but Thoven can use it. I'll make the marks. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	::::: Sounds like a winner. Don't forget you still have to pay the masterwork cost. -gm		::::: Sounds like a winner. Don't forget you still have to pay the masterwork cost. -gm
			:::::: Already accounted for with the dagger -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==

75.64.110.158 at 18:58, 2 April 2011

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	::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. So is a short sword. Anything that is three pounds or less you can make. -gm		::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. So is a short sword. Anything that is three pounds or less you can make. -gm
	:::: Rapier, then, since everyone but Thoven can use it. I'll make the marks. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:::: Rapier, then, since everyone but Thoven can use it. I'll make the marks. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
			::::: Sounds like a winner. Don't forget you still have to pay the masterwork cost. -gm

	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==

Slitherrr at 18:51, 2 April 2011

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	:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. So is a short sword. Anything that is three pounds or less you can make. -gm		::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. So is a short sword. Anything that is three pounds or less you can make. -gm
			:::: Rapier, then, since everyone but Thoven can use it. I'll make the marks. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]


	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==

75.64.110.158: /* Made into a dagger */

2011-04-02T16:15:24Z

Made into a dagger

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	: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm		: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm
	:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. Anything that is ~~less than~~ three pounds you can make. -gm		::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. So is a short sword. Anything that is three pounds or less you can make. -gm

	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==

75.64.110.158 at 16:06, 2 April 2011

2011-04-02T16:06:54Z

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	: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm		: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm
	:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
			::: Rapier is good, too - it's a finesse weapon. Anything that is less than three pounds you can make. -gm

	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==

Slitherrr: /* Made into a dagger */

2011-04-02T14:15:07Z

Made into a dagger

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	{{talk\|Two sets of studded leather might actually be enough for more than one dagger, honestly. There's a surprising amount of metal accounted for in those studs. I suppose we can say that the difference comes from the dagger not costing 3k?\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}		{{talk\|Two sets of studded leather might actually be enough for more than one dagger, honestly. There's a surprising amount of metal accounted for in those studs. I suppose we can say that the difference comes from the dagger not costing 3k?\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}
	: Transplanting studs from one suit of leather to another creates no waste. Recycling creates waste and diminished returns. Though, it's not like this is outside of the realm of barnapkining. To wit:		: Transplanting studs from one suit of leather to another creates no waste. Recycling creates waste and diminished returns. Though, it's not like this is outside of the realm of barnapkining. To wit:
	: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm		: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm
			:: Hmm, so two daggers, or a light pick, or a handaxe, or a throwing axe. What about rapier, it's listed as being two pounds, would that count? Might make a good melee weapon for Tana. Might also work for a variety of polearms, but I don't want to get into that nonsense (pretty sure the blade head of a guisarme is too massive for this). -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==

Slitherrr: /* Scrollsy Wollsy */

2011-04-02T14:10:20Z

Scrollsy Wollsy

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	What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	: That's an interesting question, but think you're being far to generous. :) Though, since they like you, you could probably get away with a 2:1 trade, although you'd probably start running into some logistical and available supply walls for anything above level 3. -gm		: That's an interesting question, but think you're being far to generous. :) Though, since they like you, you could probably get away with a 2:1 trade, although you'd probably start running into some logistical and available supply walls for anything above level 3. -gm
			:: Ok. I'll do some calculations and shuffling around. Above level 3 isn't an issue--it'll probably be mostly cure light and cure moderate, maybe a cure serious, and at 2:1 we won't be affording many things above level three in any case. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

Detarame: /* Scrollsy Wollsy */ - TWO to ONE, TWO to ONE

2011-04-01T21:21:15Z

Scrollsy Wollsy: - TWO to ONE, TWO to ONE

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	==Scrollsy Wollsy==		==Scrollsy Wollsy==
	What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	: That's an interesting question, but think you're being far to generous. :) Though, since they like you, you could probably get away with a 1:1 trade, although you'd probably start running into some logistical and available supply walls for anything above level 3. -gm		: That's an interesting question, but think you're being far to generous. :) Though, since they like you, you could probably get away with a 2:1 trade, although you'd probably start running into some logistical and available supply walls for anything above level 3. -gm

Detarame at 21:20, 1 April 2011

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	Accounting (this can be removed later, just want to keep track of it right now):		Accounting (this can be removed later, just want to keep track of it right now):
			: Nice!

	==Presented to Kred authorities==		==Presented to Kred authorities==
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	** 40 lbs: 2x Small masterwork Adamantium Studded Leather		** 40 lbs: 2x Small masterwork Adamantium Studded Leather
	{{talk\|Two sets of studded leather might actually be enough for more than one dagger, honestly. There's a surprising amount of metal accounted for in those studs. I suppose we can say that the difference comes from the dagger not costing 3k?\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}		{{talk\|Two sets of studded leather might actually be enough for more than one dagger, honestly. There's a surprising amount of metal accounted for in those studs. I suppose we can say that the difference comes from the dagger not costing 3k?\|[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]}}
			: Transplanting studs from one suit of leather to another creates no waste. Recycling creates waste and diminished returns. Though, it's not like this is outside of the realm of barnapkining. To wit:
			: Leather armor weighs 15 pounds. Studded Leather is 20 pounds. So, we can go ahead and say maybe 3 or 4 pounds of that weight difference is from the studs themselves, and we can assume that adamantine is the same weight as steel. Soo, that gives between 6 to 8 pounds of adamantine before any loss from recycling. Oh, but wait! Shit, I forgot. These were SMALL SIZED studded leathers. Soo.. umm.. Small armor is half as heavy, so we're actually talking between 3 and 4 pounds of adamantine before recycling. Although the dwarves themselves are skilled at adamantine craft, those guys are probably living where the adamantine is processed and used - aka Not Kred. So, I don't think 10 or even 20 percent loss to recycling waste is unreasonable. So, go with the 4 number, lop off 20%, and you're left with about 3 pounds of adamantine, which I suppose would be enough for one light/finesse weapon or two daggers. -gm

	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==
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	==Scrollsy Wollsy==		==Scrollsy Wollsy==
	What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
			: That's an interesting question, but think you're being far to generous. :) Though, since they like you, you could probably get away with a 1:1 trade, although you'd probably start running into some logistical and available supply walls for anything above level 3. -gm

Slitherrr at 18:51, 1 April 2011

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	==Now worn by Thoven==		==Now worn by Thoven==
	** ?? lbs: The Draglet High Priestess's Magical Robe ([[Robes of Mist]])		** ?? lbs: The Draglet High Priestess's Magical Robe ([[Robes of Mist]])


			==Scrollsy Wollsy==
			What are the odds the Kred authorities would be willing to trade consumables for other consumables on, say, a 1-for-1 or 1.5-for-1 basis (goldwise)? Some of these scrolls are less useful than others to us, but probably pretty useful to them, and we have a definite lack of HP sources that expendables form our only real source for, and no other real source of Gee Pee from this entire misadventure.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]