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Detarame: Replaced content with "You guys are intense!"

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Replaced content with "You guys are intense!"

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	~~Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~		You guys are intense!
	~~: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]~~
	~~::::: We can do it over email or before the game proper or soemthing, it'll just be the two of us. -gm~~
	~~:::::: Aight, I'll send you something. --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.12\|146.127.253.12]]~~

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.
	~~:Gambling debts make the assumption that he'd lose. Germain seems like the kind of guy who'd kill at poker. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~
	:: He did manage to lose by theft probably his single most important possession to someone he never even remotely trusted. He's probably a great bluffer, but who knows what his betting strategy is like? I think he overthinks things and is really too cautious and risk-averse to really make a killing. I just can't imagine him going through multiple years of structured education at a medieval-type university, especially as he seems to chafe under authority. -gm
	~~:: Also - are you making our next game?~~
	::: I'm kind of under the impression that Germain was a criminal more as an act of rebellion than anything. That makes a lot of sense given how easily he has adapted to life as a crime fighter. He's also not been much of a risk-taker, and might not have been ever.
	::: In any case, he is a very well-rounded sort of intelligent with great social skills, a natural investigator/researcher, and probably would have had an easy time with university. I imagine him finishing his classes without having to do much work, and having some time to be a degenerate on the side. Probably not top of his class or anything, but of the party he is the best or second-best in every intelligence-based skill. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	~~:::: Eh, that'd also explain the bardic lore stuff and even minor spellcasting that come with level(s) of bard.~~
	~~:::Yeah, I'm making it. I guess in-thread I said I'd check, rather than yes, but yeah I'll be there. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~


	~~I thought you LIKED the stub-based achievements! --[[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 12:40, 30 April 2010 (EDT)~~
	: I do but it was exhausting to do so many is just a week! They were a great idea, though, and I feel like I made a lot more progress filling out the wiki than I do with my normal highly over-worked articles. [[Fresia]] and [[Flannery]] are works of art, sure, but to anyone actually using the wiki my 30 2 sentence entries were probably far more helpful. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	~~:: This exactly mimics my sentiments about the recent stubbins~~
	~~::: I'm a fan, I'm much more comfortable stubbing things than fully fleshing other things out, just because the amount of history you~~ guys ~~have in this thing is a little intimidating. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~
	~~:::: Heh, look how far we've come! [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 18:40, 13 April 2011 (EDT)~~

	~~:::: Sure. I thinks stubs~~ are more approachable and easier all around. To be fair, it's not like we have some crusty old codex we're slowly translating - as much as Matthew likes the Gnostics, he's not privy to any secret wisdom. Everything he made, other than the Sayid thing, he invented whole cloth or came out of a wall of text summoned by careless questioning. Feel free to embellish and invent: other than the Alexandria Narrative, most everything is hazy or unexplored, especially between, say, 300-1300 FI. Even by me. --[[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 13:51, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
	~~::::: That is a good point. I made up at least 50% of the content I generated, and the rest I culled from the wall-of-tests I posted in the GM vomit pages. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~:::::: I'll probably still stay in my language-and-Kib corner, at least for a while, yet.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~
	:::::: Also, a number of entries I made up, but didn't mesh with GM, which in turn inspired a wall-of-text dump into the article, which I then shaped into an entry. The point is... don't be afraid to go completely off the cuff. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	::::::: For that matter, I think most of the stuff Matt did was atlas entries, which don't really intersect much with the religion stuff. Speaking of, we should finish the atlas. :) --[[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 16:43, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
	~~:::::::: Yeah, I really ought to send you that. I fucked myself with those rivers and I've been dreading them. I've got a mostly free weekend... I'll call! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~::::::::: I actually meant "Almanac." The entries about the countries.~~


	~~----~~
	The dudes you just killed, did they make their pages recently? They're not supposed to be able to get through the CAPTCHA! Although, I suppose their pages might not have linked to external sites. Maybe I can configure it to bring up the CAPTCHA for every anonymous edit, not just ones with links.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	~~: Not sure... they may not have had links. Just garbage text. I'll just be a little less aggro with deletes and we'll see if we can tune the tool on the next go round. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~

	~~== WIG for first summer game ==~~

	~~In case you don't see your email soon :)~~
	* The fill out form for WIG: http://whenisgood.net/sackpun
	* Results: http://whenisgood.net/sackpun/results/5taewj
	~~-[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~: Thanks for posting an update here... still working on a 1 month backlog of email. I'll hit this when I get home tonight and have access to the wife's social calendar.. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~:: I believe we are go for the 21st of May, currently at N-1 until Daniel makes it back from Sin City. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 18:41, 13 April 2011 (EDT)~~
	~~::: Cool, that should be a good date for me. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~::::: I'm in~~! ~~--[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~

146.127.253.12 at 22:28, 22 June 2011

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	::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]		:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]
	::::: We can do it over email or before the game proper or soemthing, it'll just be the two of us. -gm		::::: We can do it over email or before the game proper or soemthing, it'll just be the two of us. -gm
			:::::: Aight, I'll send you something. --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.12\|146.127.253.12]]

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.

Detarame at 21:33, 22 June 2011

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	::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]		:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]
			::::: We can do it over email or before the game proper or soemthing, it'll just be the two of us. -gm

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.

146.127.253.14 at 17:25, 22 June 2011

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	:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
			:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.

Mattie: er, responded in wrong spot

2011-06-22T14:21:19Z

er, responded in wrong spot

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	: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]


	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.
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	:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	~~:::::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~

Mattie: /* WIG for first summer game */ quick reminder that game is Saturday

2011-06-22T14:20:31Z

WIG for first summer game: quick reminder that game is Saturday

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	:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			:::::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]

Msallen at 17:51, 25 May 2011

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	Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
			:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.

Mattie: aiming for a month from now

2011-05-25T13:50:03Z

aiming for a month from now

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	Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.

Msallen at 13:15, 25 May 2011

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			Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.
	:Gambling debts make the assumption that he'd lose. Germain seems like the kind of guy who'd kill at poker. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]		:Gambling debts make the assumption that he'd lose. Germain seems like the kind of guy who'd kill at poker. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]

Msallen at 04:45, 17 May 2011

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	::: Cool, that should be a good date for me. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		::: Cool, that should be a good date for me. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
			::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]

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	~~Any WiG I am missing? I've been out of email again. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~		You guys are intense!
	~~: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~:::: Thanks! Matt, do you still want to do an onboarding beforehand? --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.14\|146.127.253.14]]~~
	~~::::: We can do it over email or before the game proper or soemthing, it'll just be the two of us. -gm~~
	~~:::::: Aight, I'll send you something. --[[Special:Contributions/146.127.253.12\|146.127.253.12]]~~

	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.
	~~:Gambling debts make the assumption that he'd lose. Germain seems like the kind of guy who'd kill at poker. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~
	:: He did manage to lose by theft probably his single most important possession to someone he never even remotely trusted. He's probably a great bluffer, but who knows what his betting strategy is like? I think he overthinks things and is really too cautious and risk-averse to really make a killing. I just can't imagine him going through multiple years of structured education at a medieval-type university, especially as he seems to chafe under authority. -gm
	~~:: Also - are you making our next game?~~
	::: I'm kind of under the impression that Germain was a criminal more as an act of rebellion than anything. That makes a lot of sense given how easily he has adapted to life as a crime fighter. He's also not been much of a risk-taker, and might not have been ever.
	::: In any case, he is a very well-rounded sort of intelligent with great social skills, a natural investigator/researcher, and probably would have had an easy time with university. I imagine him finishing his classes without having to do much work, and having some time to be a degenerate on the side. Probably not top of his class or anything, but of the party he is the best or second-best in every intelligence-based skill. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	~~:::: Eh, that'd also explain the bardic lore stuff and even minor spellcasting that come with level(s) of bard.~~
	~~:::Yeah, I'm making it. I guess in-thread I said I'd check, rather than yes, but yeah I'll be there. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~


	~~I thought you LIKED the stub-based achievements! --[[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 12:40, 30 April 2010 (EDT)~~
	: I do but it was exhausting to do so many is just a week! They were a great idea, though, and I feel like I made a lot more progress filling out the wiki than I do with my normal highly over-worked articles. [[Fresia]] and [[Flannery]] are works of art, sure, but to anyone actually using the wiki my 30 2 sentence entries were probably far more helpful. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	~~:: This exactly mimics my sentiments about the recent stubbins~~
	~~::: I'm a fan, I'm much more comfortable stubbing things than fully fleshing other things out, just because the amount of history you~~ guys ~~have in this thing is a little intimidating. -[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~
	~~:::: Heh, look how far we've come! [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 18:40, 13 April 2011 (EDT)~~

	~~:::: Sure. I thinks stubs~~ are more approachable and easier all around. To be fair, it's not like we have some crusty old codex we're slowly translating - as much as Matthew likes the Gnostics, he's not privy to any secret wisdom. Everything he made, other than the Sayid thing, he invented whole cloth or came out of a wall of text summoned by careless questioning. Feel free to embellish and invent: other than the Alexandria Narrative, most everything is hazy or unexplored, especially between, say, 300-1300 FI. Even by me. --[[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 13:51, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
	~~::::: That is a good point. I made up at least 50% of the content I generated, and the rest I culled from the wall-of-tests I posted in the GM vomit pages. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~:::::: I'll probably still stay in my language-and-Kib corner, at least for a while, yet.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]~~
	:::::: Also, a number of entries I made up, but didn't mesh with GM, which in turn inspired a wall-of-text dump into the article, which I then shaped into an entry. The point is... don't be afraid to go completely off the cuff. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	::::::: For that matter, I think most of the stuff Matt did was atlas entries, which don't really intersect much with the religion stuff. Speaking of, we should finish the atlas. :) --[[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 16:43, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
	~~:::::::: Yeah, I really ought to send you that. I fucked myself with those rivers and I've been dreading them. I've got a mostly free weekend... I'll call! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~::::::::: I actually meant "Almanac." The entries about the countries.~~


	~~----~~
	The dudes you just killed, did they make their pages recently? They're not supposed to be able to get through the CAPTCHA! Although, I suppose their pages might not have linked to external sites. Maybe I can configure it to bring up the CAPTCHA for every anonymous edit, not just ones with links.-[[User:Slitherrr\|Slitherrr]]
	~~: Not sure... they may not have had links. Just garbage text. I'll just be a little less aggro with deletes and we'll see if we can tune the tool on the next go round. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~

	~~== WIG for first summer game ==~~

	~~In case you don't see your email soon :)~~
	* The fill out form for WIG: http://whenisgood.net/sackpun
	* Results: http://whenisgood.net/sackpun/results/5taewj
	~~-[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~: Thanks for posting an update here... still working on a 1 month backlog of email. I'll hit this when I get home tonight and have access to the wife's social calendar.. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~:: I believe we are go for the 21st of May, currently at N-1 until Daniel makes it back from Sin City. [[User:Detarame\|absalom]] 18:41, 13 April 2011 (EDT)~~
	~~::: Cool, that should be a good date for me. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~
	~~:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~
	~~::::: I'm in~~! ~~--[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]~~

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	: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		: I think we leveraged existing WIG data to pick a date. So far everyone else picked June 25th (Saturday). Is that good for you? ::crosses-fingers:: -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		:: Commit from wife. I'm in. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]


	Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.		Did germaine really make it through college? He seems like the sort that would run up a bunch of gambling debts or something then just run off. That was what happened to a lot of people at, say, Oxford during the middle ages.
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	:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	~~:::::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]~~

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	:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
	::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
			:::::: Friendly reminder: It's this Saturday at 6:30 or 7. -[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]

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	::: Cool, that should be a good date for me. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]		::: Cool, that should be a good date for me. --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]
	:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]		:::: Ping! Just to be sure you've still got the 21st of May open for some Mighty Silverwalker Madness. :) --[[User:Mattie\|Mattie]]
			::::: I'm in! --[[User:Msallen\|Msallen]]