Talk:DireCiple

Parenthetical? So it's available to copyeditors? -Slitherrr

Only particularly evil ones. Like Sarah.

BWAHAHAHA says Sarah.

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Sorcerer only at least for prereq? Not sure what a flat "Bonus spell" would mean otherwise?

--Mattie 15:24, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Anyone who can "cast a spell without preparation." So, bards also. And, presumably, that divine class from eberron that does the same with cleric spells. -gm

Parenthetical Experience

So wait. She gains DireCiple levels alongside of normal levels? Because the only other alternative I can think of is that she gains levels at 1/100th the rate of everyone else, and that is even more crazy. -Slitherrr

Every time she gains experience, she gain 1% of that total in the shadow xp pool. So, even if she doesn't do anything in game to warrant sxp, her pool will still grow.

So she can do things to gain parenthetical experience directly. Gotcha. How is her advancement figured, then? Is she going to have to gain as much parenthetical experience as she would normal experience to get a DireCiple level? If she gains a level in something else, does the experience requirement for her next DireCiple level go up? -Slitherrr

Maybe this discussion comes from out-of-band and I don't know what is going on (wouldn't be the first time!), but I thought this was a normal prestige class with a normal impact on leveling in every respect except the (xp) rules. For (xp), I thought that the rule was if you are close enough to leveling that your (xp) would put you over the next level, you could spend that (xp) to level in this class. Other than that, it's just business as usual with respect to leveling and such. --Msallen

As the Sages once opined, "You can't shake the devil's hand and say you are only kidding." The acquisition of this prestige class represents LE not merely "exploring" or "examining" the mysterious darkness within her, but "embracing" it. Her choice of "Phantasmal Killer," IMHO, fits perfectly in with this. Once you take the first step on the path, even if you never again commit acts of evil, slay another one of your kind, or anything of the sort, it's going to continue to grow, albeit slowly. Additionally, in a rules mechanic way, it allows LE to *always* have the option to pick up DireCiple.

1. If you have enough Shadow XP to go up a level, you may turn the SXP into normal XP, but *must* take a level of DireCiple.

2. If you have enough so that Shadow XP alone would take you from one level to the next, the pool empties.

Going to go with a 1st level example to make the math easier. Slitherrr knows I'm not great at clarifying. ex: A first level darktouched person picks up 10 shadow XP. When he hits 990 XP, he can dump it into his pool and gain a DireCiple level. If he gains 1000 xp (enough to ding with no other xp), then the pool force dumps.

So, the higher you go in DireCiple, the more shadow XP you gain, and so the easier it is to advance in direciple. (And, possibly, the harder it is NOT to advance, since this class will *eventually* start causing alignment shifts down towards Chaotic Evil. I know what levels that happens at, but I ain't tellin)

Sounds EEEE-veeee-ill. -Slitherrr

If necessary, LE has a buddy she can go evil with. Hopefully we won't have to murder Mose ;) --Msallen

Hopefully we won't have to be vanquished by Mose.

FTFY. -Mattie

A Fully Operation LE vs. A Fully Operational Mose would be a close fight. Of course, a truly cunning evil adversary is never going to allow a Showdown at High Noon, are they? -gm

And I say this because a Fully Operation LE could pretty much kill any other member of the party in 1v1 PvP. Kimi *might* have a chance by the numbers. -gm