Talk:Rhino's Rush

OhgodGilneedsthisYESTERDAY -Slitherrr

Target: Self. -gm

Level 1 spell? Stick it in an item, wipe hands on pants. -Slitherrr

Quality

So in everyday scenarios am I right that this isn't so great? For major smites/single-shot setups/etc it could be good, though? In everyday cases, wouldn't it be:

• Rd1:
  • Cast Rhino's Rush
  • Move into position for a charge next round
• Rd2:
  • Hope the angle didn't change or nothing got in the way
  • Charge, if you hit, get double-damage.

It doesn't seem wildly better than without the spell:

• Rd1:
  • Charge now, hit for single damage
• Rd2:
  • Get full attack up close

Ayup, it's as you describe. -gm

Of course if you put a lot of oomph behind that one attack, it could be better overall? Any other strategy here I'm missing? Potions? -Mattie

Lances

I assume this is 3x damage charging with lances? -Mattie

And then 4x with Spirited Charge. The alternative would be 4x and 6x respectively, which would be stupid beyond belief. -Slitherrr

Well, maybe not that stupid. Here are numbers: Level 2 Human Fighter/Sorcerer, Feats: Mounted Combat (Level 1), Ride-by-Attack (Human bonus), Spirited Charge (Fighter Bonus), 18 ST for +4, gives 5-12 damage on a successful hit, meaning a 6x would be 30-72 damage on a single charge (after a round of casting) from a level 2 Fighter/Sorc, which compares against 3x(5-12) + 1x(5-12) = 20-48 from a non-cast charge-then-attack. If it's x4, the damage is completely even with or without casting, which means it's better to never cast the spell EXCEPT in the edge case where you've got a ton of targets who don't necessarily know what spell you just cast, meaning you'll get a single comparatively devastating attack. -Slitherrr