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Smite ability

Discussed this a bit with GM. He mentioned that Alexandrian faithful are everyone who goes through the Eight Rites. This applies to pretty much everyone born in the Mainland. His words: "Are they following the church sacraments and going through the rites of passage? No smite."

In theory, though, this means you can smite animals, plants, elementals, aberrations, undead (?), or other things that don't have religion, right? You can't smite a Mainlander, but you can smite the horse they rode in on? (I'm intentionally being broad/silly here to help flesh out the clarification.) Or must they be intelligent things?

Yet, in my book, since they don't get a lot of smites (and get them only at 5th level+), pretty much any direction this goes is probably not going to wreck their balance. -Mattie

A sensible restriction would be to have it only apply to humanoids. --Msallen

I agree. Case closed! -gm

Including humanoids with the undead template, I assume? What about aberrations? -Slitherrr

I would suppose that would include Humanoids, Monsterous Humanoids, but perhaps NOT undead because they're not int.

You know, I have an even SIMPLER and BETTER idea. Smite Foe. You can only smite one of your chosen enemy types, regardless of alignment. *dusts off hands* I think that should solve all our problems? -gm

I like either non-undead humaniods or smite foe. I think either is a broad enough category on a rare enough power that it's mostly just flavor. --Msallen

Ugh, I really don't like Smite Foe because he has a built in big bonus already (+4/+4) and can turn them. He'll be useless at 5th level when not fighting orcs or whatever he picked (I already think he's really weak when not fighting his chosen foe for the first 5-6 levels). Smite Nonbeliever at least gives him some bonus in other situations. If you must nerf the smite at least make it Smite (any) Servitor/Undead and put it at an earlier level so he can actually do something in other combat situations. I mean, the guy is giving up his domain abilities, domains (including 1 spell mem per day/level), etc, so that he can solely focus on one specific creature for 25% of his life and 1-2 for 50% of his life? -Mattie