Talk:Deific Vengeance
| Conjuration Summoning | |
| Level: | Clr 2 Putrification 2 |
|---|---|
| Components: | V, S, DF |
| Casting time: | 1 standard action |
| Range: | Close (25ft + 5ft/2 levels) |
| Target: | One creature |
| Duration: | Instantaneous |
| Saving Throw: | Will Half |
| Spell Resistance: | Yes |
Description
You cry out to your god, enumerating transgressions and crimes of a creature and seek your deity to exact punishment on them. (Their alignment is irrelevant.) The divine might of the angry god exacts this justice in the form of an acute, divine strike on the target. This damage hits unerringly and for 1d6 points per two caster levels (maximum 5d6). For an undead target, the damage is increased to 1d6 points per caster level (max 10d6). Damage is reduced by half upon succeeding a Will saving throw.
Source: Complete Divine, p161 (reworded slightly, but effect is identical)
DM Approved?
This spell, of course, is subject to GM veto, but I figure most stuff from WotC books or Dragon are ok? I want to check because there are also a few (mediocre-to-okay) Druid spells in Complete Divine that we might want to bring, and 1-2 Paladin spells that have their uses, too. -Mattie
- Yeah, generally speaking WotC and Dragon are both considered as close to canonical as you can get. Mongoose Publishing, Swords and Sorcery, etc. less so. Still, I'd rather you put the spell and stuff on the talk page and leave the actual page blank until spells get approved. I think having players add and suggest is a great, I am just leery of confusing our poor spellcasters with what is and is not yet approved. -gm
- Cool, thanks for the clarification on process for DM approval. Counter-proposal: What if we create the pages as normal but we put {{pendingapproval}} template? It would look like this:
Could we instead post them as a normal spell/feat/class and put that bright red above it? If you reject it, just delete it. The cool thing about this process is that you get this awesome page to reference: Category:Pending Approval -MattieNote: This topic is pending approval and should not be used.
- Cool, thanks for the clarification on process for DM approval. Counter-proposal: What if we create the pages as normal but we put {{pendingapproval}} template? It would look like this:
Spell Strength
- It's an... odd spell on many levels, though, and I can't say I'm a *huge* fan of it. Direct, unerring damage is not, generally, the purview of the cleric class. Will save for half is just a very .... strange.... save. Also, 60 points of max damage against undead from a second level spell doesn't really strike me as all that balanced.
- I mean, I think this spell feels *at least* as good as most of the 2nd level sor/wiz damage spells, and that's clearly not so great from a class balance point of view.
- I can't disagree with you, but to play devil's advocate: The wording I picked ("unerring") isn't how they wrote it. For the spirit of the spell, see this screenshot for the actual wording that Complete Divine, Spell Compendium, and DDO use. I changed it to avoid copyright, but the original wording seems spiritually good (better for a paladin/judgement spell, IMHO):
- So Helen and I love this for flavor. As for damage, it's solid, indeed. I wouldn't put it on par with Sorc/Wiz (searing ray averaging 1d6/level, right?), but it is strong for Cleric which is an exception for most of the added divine content from WotC (probably to boost FS class). Note that undead seem to have stronger will saves than anything else, so it's not going to be the world's best spell against them. Range is really tight, too. -Mattie
