Talk:Fresia
In Fresian Culture, "...their close relationship with key Church Founders...", was listed among the inspirations for Fresian cultural values, but not elaborated upon. I've simplified the structure of that couple of sentences a bit, but had to remove the statement of the Church in the process, since I didn't want to guess at how it influences their lifestyle. - Slitherrr 11:44, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
Would be good to get some info from the GM on that. He added it there, but it wasn't elaborated on. I don't actually know what their ties are other than the church founder Steros, who was Fresian. -Msallen 14:59, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
Well, I guess I meant that Steros was Fresian, and Mythrian is basically considered Fresian since he was raised by Steros and has unknown origins, and so the two central figures of the church, the first two Arch-Wardens, were both fresian . . . -gm
What about modern ties? Do they have many Hadriarchs? Does the church have a strong cultural or political influence (ie. Flannery)? Or is it, like the government, disorganized and decentralized? -Msallen 08:39, 21 September 2009 (EDT)
Eh, well, one reason the Fresians might look to the Early church for pride is that in the modern era, Fresia is kind of a backwater and is actually probably a littler UNDER represented in church affairs, overshadowed by the more wealthy and influential Odessa and Flannary. The List of Archwardens has the national origins of all of the arch-wardens, and seems to back this up, as it indicates Fresians as the most common human arch-warden (5, counting Mythrian) during the first half of the church, but not single Fresian for the past 700 years. -gm
At the risk of sounding silly, since it's hard to talk about a unified stance from a nation of semi-autonomous states, how does Fresia get along with Gildenhome? Are their trade ties stronger than the ties either of those countries has with other people? It's still a ways into the future, but I'd like to eventually tie in Diamon Pegg's involvement in Gildenhome's current events. -Slitherrr
Also, Fresian is one language, but is that actually a grouping of a large number of subdialects? Drawing from my recent African experience, it would stand to reason that such a motley grouping of nations, especially one that's existed as long as these have (compared to anything in Real Life--and it's not like this world has the Internet to stabilize linguistic balkanization) would generate a large number of related-but-different languages, where speakers of one could be understood by speakers of another, but with difficulty (sometimes with a lot of difficulty).
In fact, if the above reasoning makes sense, I could even start generating languages within Fresia, since it's one of those few types of contributions I would feel comfortable making without worrying about drastically changing any of your world's flavor. -Slitherrr
- 1. Fresia and Gildenhome actually get along quite well: they're Fresia's largest trade partner, and Fresians are sometimes disparagingly called "Six Foot Dwarves" by the Flannari because they're heavily influenced by Dwarven culture, especially militarily.
- 2. Yeah, I think Germania or Anglo-Saxon Brittania, or even classical greek, might be a better comparison: a place that it is politically disunified but culturally pretty homogeneous. The actual, real-life inspiration for Fresia is actually closest to the Holy Roman Empire and its system of Electors. The dialect rules will come in very handy, say, around the Fresia/Flannary border, where the constant back and forth has left a sort of pidgin dialect that's a mix between Flannari and Fresian. (Sort of like what happened in post-Norman England.)
- 3. RFC
- -gm
