Talk:Riddermark Family

Where do you get this kind of lore info? Do you create it? Nice stuff. -Mattie

Made it up. Read about swamps on wikipedia for a while, then pulled it out of my ass. Matt is very tolerant of me and my work here. --Msallen

I am tolerant of quite a bit on here of background, off camera things. It never hurts to BS with be first. As I remember, we talked a bit before you lose on the families. -gm

And, I think I already had the families in place?

Here is my process:

• Think about something I want to write about
• Read about some releated stuff on this wiki and on the internet
• Think about if for a week or two more while I shower, poop, fall asleep, commute, etc
• Call Jones and ramble about it for a while
• Write some stuff

--Msallen

FWiW, most of the fertilizer for the city comes from the nightsoil recycling centers around the city. A couple are now gone after the fire, but there's an even greater number of people no longer pooping in the city, so there's actually still not enough poop to fill current reduced capacity. --==* -gm

That is gross and unhealthy. Hopefully Wydmoor has some shitomancers to treat it to minimize the amount of worms, parasites, and disease in the city. In any case, peat isn't a fertilizer, its a moisture stabilizer. When its ground up and mixed with soil, it has the property that it retains moisture effectively, but also wicks excess moisture and prevents drowning. --74.68.100.149

Gross and unhealthy? Well, it's gross, but not necessarily unhealthy. There *is* magic involved, but there needn't be to make it work. Chinese agriculture depended on nightsoil from before christ through the 20th century. -gm

This is truth. As long as fecal matter is well-exposed to the air, aerobic bacteria break down the pathogens in it relatively quickly, and certain livestock (notably chickens) can consume the eggs and larvae of potentially hazardous macroorganisms. As long as runoff isn't going into the water supply, it's pretty harmless. -Slitherrr

The Chinese had worms and didn't value human life from before christ through the 20th century! --Msallen

The people collecting the nightsoil were the ones using it. They certainly cared about their own lives. -gm

I mean, I agree with Slith in that nightsoil can be made safe if:

* You let it cure for months in the sun so the ultraviolet light can kill the baddies

* You don't let it run off into drinking supplies

* You allow plants to grow on it if you don't eat them

* You allow animals that are sufficiently dissimilar from humans to eat it (chickens yes, pigs no)

Which is to say, if you spend a lot of time curing it, you can use it to grow food. And Matt, people care about their immidiate needs, not the long term affects of their decisions. The fact that people did it is hardly an indicator that it is a good idea. --Msallen

In fact, I would be happy to assign people certain families and clients if they are into that sort of thing. -gm

This offer only applies to anyone who has read at least read Dune or one of the Martin novels.