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I'd like to make any revisions to this before anyone ends up taking it. Specifically the Exceptional Mount ability. I think it should be brought into line with Animal Companion table. Replace the (% OF Owners Hit Die) with additional hit dice that would stack as animal companion levels. It would mean a lot less hit points, but still waaaaay more than - say - [Tenpence|Tenny], who has proved remarkably resiliant. OTOH, it would give things like new feats, skill points, and other goodies to offset. Thoughts? Particularly Fean, if she's tuned into this channel, since I doubt Al has any interest. He's more like to become an Elk than mount one. Err, unless he's in elf form. -gm

Bullshit up here cleared out. History if interested. -Slitherrr 17:02, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Animal Companion Level Stacking

So Elk Rider levels count Druid-style, right? I.e., a 3/5/2 Druid/Ranger/Elk Rider would have 3 + (5/2 round down = 2) + 2 = 7 animal-companion-counting levels? -Slitherrr

Any reference on Improved Weapon Specialization, or is Greater Weapon Specialization what is meant? Also, if prereqs need to be met, then those bonus feats are going to be limited to people with at least four/twelve Fighter levels, which is quite a lot of investment in Fighter for a class that's probably more of a Ranger thing. Alternatively, you could add a caveat that Ranger/Elk-Rider levels count as fighter levels for the purposes of those two feats with bows only, which seems pretty reasonable. -Slitherrr

Ah, good point! I forgot that there was a fighter requirement. :( Your solution is a good one. Or, another solution, a simple rewording. "All feat prerequisites must be met," meaning you'd have to have weapon focus before picking up weapon spec. or you have to have Mounted Combat before Ride By Attack, which was really my intent with that caveat. -gm

The latter solution has more coupling to worry about, and it's also probably prudent to keep Greater Weapon Specialization out of the hands of potentially very low-level characters, so I'm leaning toward the former. I'll go ahead and put it on the page. -Slitherrr

Alright. I ended up putting the prereq sub into its own ability, to spell it out as explicitly as possible. This way, it will still be possible to get the feats without splashing Fighter after Elk Rider. Because it takes three feats that all require Fighter levels to get GWS, and there are only two levels the ER gets bonus feats, making it an ability of the Elk Rider allows him to get GWS with Ranger levels after he completes ER, or alternatively, to gain GWS as ER with the normal feat he gets for levels divisible by three if the timing is fortuitous. We could consider removing GWS entirely, though, since that's definitely the Fighter's wheelhouse, even if we're restricting it only to bows. Also, I added Craft(bows) to the class skills. Also also, I emphatically did NOT make druid levels stack with ER for the Focus and Specialization, because that would be retarded. I figure, if the character is a Druid, the bow focus will be much less of a thing than the Rider focus, and he'll already stack crazy animal companion bonuses to make up for it that a Ranger wouldn't get. -Slitherrr

I'm down with all of that. -gm

Alright - Let's do this! Step one : Find good Deer/Elk stats. http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/165569-stats-deer.html

I should have at least one of those references, so I'll take a look when I get home and remember. -Slitherrr

So I should have taken that rank of ride I was considering eh.. hrm. Could be an interesting thing. Though someone is bound to recognize that connection and get my elf but captured. :-P

There's nobody around to train you (that we know of), but that may just mean you'd be the origin of a rebirth of the discipline. If that's the case, you'll be so important that you're almost *guaranteed* to be captured. -Slitherrr

But don't worry, because we got your back, girl. -Slitherrr