Difference between revisions of "Talk:Germain's Character Sheet (Pathfinder, No Professional)"

Latest revision as of 16:33, 27 February 2013

What happened to your Sense Motive? +19 is downright pedestrian. -gm

Heh. Was writing a summary. It's because of the versatile performance, he substitutes perform. --Msallen

Ok, here is another non-professional version of Germain. It's pretty good--definitely up until I hit level 7, I feel like it matches the G-man pretty close in feel. The master spy stuff was an interesting direction, but it doesn't jive quite the way I had hoped. I was attracted to it because Germain has been looking for a way to guard his thoughts because he feels like he needs to operate with utmost discretion with Naprid and the Guild breathing down his neck. But this really takes Germain deeply into the shady zone, with crazy bluff and disguise skills, but I was more inclined to make him more trustworthy instead of this. Here are the notable conversion changes:

• Bard's versatile performance for Oratory allows you to substitute perform for diplomacy/sense motive. That was Germ's perform, and also his wheelhouse skills, so I focused on perform and ignored the other two except for prestige prereqs. That made up for missing skill points and feats.
• Loss of insightful defense was hard on the AC, and along with the combat expertise changes, he'll be 5 points lower with CE fully engaged, and can't use it at range. This makes it very risky to be on the front line or use the cursed buckler trick, and with feat tightness, I'd prefer to drop combat expertise and buckler and focus on ranged combat.
• There was an urban track feat that thought would be a better match given the more ranger-y focus.

--Msallen

Like I mentioned above, once I got the master spy stuff specced out, I didn't like it as much. I took a closer look at the Noble Scion class, and this is much, much closer to 3.5 Germain. This class has leaderhip, diplomacy, and sense motive buffs, plus a bunch of bonus skill and influence feats, and feels very close to professional/dragoman in many (although not all) ways. How do you feel about me taking this? Noble blood has always been part of Germ's backstory (although displaced nobles on his mother's side) and Wydmoor is pretty fast and loose with the concept of nobility anyways, but is that enough justification to meet the special requirement? Also, the level 1 stipend power is a little weird for him, although I think if we made it something more obscure like "political capital" with the geese and the merchants and not actual gold, or just got rid of it all-together, it might be ok? I don't know. There is a lot about that class that works, but it's not a perfect match. If I don't take some sort of non-magical prestige class, I'm definitely going to want to take the route of bard, which will turn Germain into much more of a spellcaster, which I am trying to avoid. Here are other more divergent classes that I'd consider: Pathfinder Chronicler (it's not my first choice, but it has some elements I like), Grand Marshal (it's geared around guns now, but could be retooled), Sleepless Detective (the alchemy element is weird, but otherwise it's a solid detective direction to take him), --Msallen